tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6517537567072747632.post1104822186777280267..comments2023-09-29T09:07:24.854+01:00Comments on Ceredig: Why Wales (2)Ceredighttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07328928643766735216noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6517537567072747632.post-70868543722694616372007-09-20T20:17:00.000+01:002007-09-20T20:17:00.000+01:00In your post Ceredig and in various responses I'm ...In your post Ceredig and in various responses I'm surprised to see so little referance to the concept of Welsh nationhood which is the bulwark of Welsh language culture. Despite being at loggerheads with each other in the past (and possibly present) throughout the centuries Cymru has been an undisputed reality. Giraldus Cambrensis (Gerallt Gymro)composed his Itinerarium Kambriae referring of Tartinihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01390545146121560358noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6517537567072747632.post-22385318376220204002007-08-24T17:05:00.000+01:002007-08-24T17:05:00.000+01:00"As it happens, I think that there is a strong cas..."As it happens, I think that there is a strong case for further devolution of powers to Wales (as well as within Wales), and possibly even for Independence."<BR/><BR/>I suppose we must be thankful for small mercies.<BR/><BR/>(also, see today's "Western Mail".)Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16258854366964329334noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6517537567072747632.post-40333270813552298402007-08-24T16:34:00.000+01:002007-08-24T16:34:00.000+01:00Alan,You make it quite difficult for anyone to deb...Alan,<BR/><BR/>You make it quite difficult for anyone to debate with you if you start from the position that anyone who disagrees with your view of the world has been brainwashed. But I’ll try anyway.<BR/><BR/>You maintain that everyone can have one, and only one, nationality, and since Wales, England, and Scotland are nations, it is therefore impossible for there to be any such thing as ‘Ceredighttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07328928643766735216noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6517537567072747632.post-4225783470385693162007-08-24T16:16:00.000+01:002007-08-24T16:16:00.000+01:00Didn't Britain come into existence as a term some ...Didn't Britain come into existence as a term some time after the Union of Scotland with EnglandandWales? When the Scots go, as they will....then we will be left with EnglanandWales. I suppose you will be arguing for the validity of that entity come that time......Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6517537567072747632.post-47574307909045190572007-08-24T13:06:00.000+01:002007-08-24T13:06:00.000+01:00I still maintain that Britain is not a nation, but...I still maintain that Britain is not a nation, but practically all have been conditioned to believe that it is. We all grew up not aware of the difference. If Britain is composed of three (some would say four) nations), how is it possible that Britain is also a nation?<BR/>Please answer with logic, not belief.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16258854366964329334noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6517537567072747632.post-21977695171288780942007-08-24T10:26:00.000+01:002007-08-24T10:26:00.000+01:00Hafod, Indeed. Welsh nationality and identity exi...Hafod, <BR/><BR/>Indeed. Welsh nationality and identity exist because we choose for them to exist. They are an integral part of what we are; but so is our identity as British, European – and human. I’m happy to consider myself as being all four of those things, but none of them lead me to an unbending view of where political power should lie or where decisions should be taken. All four levelsCeredighttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07328928643766735216noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6517537567072747632.post-35116191225098745772007-08-24T08:24:00.000+01:002007-08-24T08:24:00.000+01:00Nationalism is the urge to establish a political h...Nationalism is the urge to establish a political home for those who in the past have been abused, disregarded, neglected, exploited and intmidated.<BR/>The natural reaction to indignities such as these is an emotional one.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16258854366964329334noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6517537567072747632.post-67084201280828856232007-08-24T04:40:00.000+01:002007-08-24T04:40:00.000+01:00Your post shows that you have knowledge of Gwyn Al...Your post shows that you have knowledge of Gwyn Alf's book "When Was Wales"<BR/><BR/>If you want to prove that you are the most academic blogger going - the only one who studies premise and logic rather than heart and gut; shouldn't you, at least, follow the most basic academic courtesy of acknowledging your sources?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6517537567072747632.post-1328669954368566152007-08-23T20:23:00.000+01:002007-08-23T20:23:00.000+01:00.....a nation gives people something to be proud a........a nation gives people something to be proud about.....a feeling of belonging etc etc. You can question the basis of all nations I suppose. I don't understand this continuous questioning of the right of the Welsh nation to exist? Somebody said...I think it was Ceredig that we shouln't be looking at things from a nation point of view but from which powers etc at which level are we best Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6517537567072747632.post-60576979893481390042007-08-23T20:15:00.000+01:002007-08-23T20:15:00.000+01:00However, accept the fact or not Cer : Britain IS n...However, accept the fact or not Cer : Britain IS not a nation except in the minds of those who *believe* that they are "British". Factually, it has never existed.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16258854366964329334noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6517537567072747632.post-67862535668797756052007-08-23T19:49:00.000+01:002007-08-23T19:49:00.000+01:00hafod,As the sergeant said in the film Zulu...."It...hafod,<BR/><BR/>As the sergeant said in the film Zulu...."It's because you are here boy!"....and not there ;-)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6517537567072747632.post-33617669552524436502007-08-23T16:37:00.000+01:002007-08-23T16:37:00.000+01:00Interesting and thoughtful post. The continued exi...Interesting and thoughtful post. The continued existence of a Welsh identity is pretty illogical by most measurements. There is no material basis to that identity, just as there is no economic basis for the existence of the Welsh language.<BR/> But here we are in 2007 and arguably Welsh identity is stronger now than it was in 1957 or 1907. Even more remarkably, that's in the face of massive hafodhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14421821230566387790noreply@blogger.com